If you're referring to the Pioneer Woman thing, I checked it out after you mentioned on FB a while back. All that bashing is just...weird. I can't believe people really want to spend their time reading that kind of hateful drivel. IIRC, weren't they down in Texas? Texas bloggers having nothing more important to concern themselves with these days?
I have no idea who is or isn't in Texas (Kathy, not sure who you're referring to), but maybe we could also not engage in general bashing based on location? We Texans have PLENTY of more important things to worry about right now. Infantile internat hate is a product of one's own insecurities, not a product of where you live.
@Tara: Nobody's bashing Texas. I wasn't saying they're bashing each other BECAUSE they're Texans; I was simply pointing out (as you did) that with all the troubles Texas is currently having, there might be a few more important things they could be blogging about. That's all.
Gotcha, Kathy. I have to admit, I'm a TX gal (originally, not currently) and I read it the same way Kathy did at first, so glad to know that's not the case. :)
I have a lot of respect for this statement. I blog as well, and would never bash someone on my blog. I wouldn't do it in a face to face conversation, so why would I do it on the internet? I don't see anonymity as a reason to lose my manners.
I'm not sure why anyone would.. as a fellow blogger I feel that's low. : ( we should all be helping each other out and getting along.. there's enough hate out there already.
Ree is my absolute most favorite blogger of all time, and I have never seen anything on her blog that has even come close to bashing/insulting others. Ree is not in Texas, she's in Oklahoma.
You know this seems to be rampant on the internet. Little people hiding behind a keyboard feeling they have the right to trash everyone. I'll share this with you . . . . . as I have on two other blogs I read recently (sad to say you are #3 of 8 that is having issues) Maybe someday a few of them will graduate past the junior lunchroom crap.
"Ignore all those tiny, small people who have so little self-worth or self-esteem that they have to attack others in order to justify themselves. Deep down they probably are just jealous."
You are the wonderfully strong woman who has the strength and poise to work a sheepdog and a horse everyday and the love of your community both in your home town and here online (you can see that when you look at your sheep shed or your barn). I'm not sure what the blogger said but I'm sure they only said it because they don't know you. I'm glad to hear you're committed to being your best self despite the challenges of life.
If we're talking about the PW blog, PW isn't the one doing the bashing. There's an entire blog (probably more than one) devoted to bashing her. I cannot for the life of me figure out why any sane person would devote an entire blog to bashing someone. If you can't stand them that much how about just not reading them? Probably the answer to that is because the person doing the bashing is *not* sane.
Like I have said before, I enjoy your attitude, I enjoy your blog, and I appreciate that it is a little slice of gentle entertainment. And very well written at that. I read every day if I can. If I see things on the internet that are bashing others, I do what I would do in person. I turn away... Keep writing.
I don't know anything about whatever bashing has been going on somewhere, but I do know that all of the above statements describe you, just like Abileen was trying to teach the little girl she was tending in The Help. I and your other readers know just what a class act you are.
Here's a promise from me: Whenever I find bloggers bashing, or blogger-bashing, or any kind of online bashing, I stop reading whoever is writing the garbage. I don't have room in my free time for that kind of negative energy. I take a deep breath and delete them from my currently read blogs or other things. I've been known to just "hide" a Facebook friend who has nothing of any value to say and says nothing several times a day :) Life is too short. My free time is WAAAYYY too short! Sounds like most of your readers agree.
Surley no one is saying ANYTHING bad about Coldantlerfarm or you. Ugh. The "internets" have become the breeding ground for pure ugliness at times. Again, I have the utmost respect for what you are doing. Shame on anyone who is po pooing you...
Ummmmm..... could somebody please fill me in? I mean, if you're going to post something leading like that, please... fill us in and not leave us hanging.
Take the high road, Jenna. Eleanor Roosevelt said "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." Don't let the little minds, who are usually hiding behind their jealousy, get to you.
A reader tipped me off to some angry/mean reviews of me and my book on a website. I don't know why I went to read them, but I did.
I don't understand why anyone who wasn't a paid critic would take the time to berate someone online. I once was paid to write a music review for a magazine for a CD I didn't like and i still feel guilty about it.
My rules are simple on this site. Anyone can say whatever they want about me, or my farm, in these comments: but they need to do it with their real name a link to their contact information. No faceless comments here if you're angry.
Way to go Jenna. There are some real haters out there and the fact that you aren't is part of the reason I've been a loyal reader for over two years. Integrity is still important in this day and age. Perhaps more important than ever. Thanks Jenna for aspiring to be better than that!
Wow really sorry that happened. Next time, DON'T GO THERE! But seriously, there is a way to critique something you don't like without making it a personal attack. That kind of unjustified attack says way more about that person than it ever would about you. Don't take that kind of bitterness personally. :-(
Hey Jenna, sorry about the negative stuff—of course you wouldn’t trash anyone. I decided to go search you up some positive stuff to counteract and came across this person’s blog…for all I know it is by a blog reader (actually she has to be because she says she is on the side panel of her blog) and you already know about it, but I thought I’d share. This person really loves your latest book and went through a traumatic experience when she misplaced it—something that is totally something I would do/have done.
I've always thought a review should be a critque, but these days proper critquing seems to be a lost art. It used to be that reviewers would say something like, "I would have preferred", or "could have been stronger", or similar things about something (books, music, art, whatever) they didn't care for or found lacking. But we now live in a society where everyone thinks they're entitled to be Simon Cowell. IOW, just plain mean and humiliating. Just another sign that our society in general is pretty much circling the drain. [See: Pioneer Woman bashers, as well.]
Of course, all of that has to do with THAT person's views of the world and nothing at all to do with you. I won't tell you not to let it bother you because I know if I were in your shoes, I would be bothered big time. My question is this, though. Did the person "reviewing" your work write and have published a book? Oh wait, that's three books?
The great thing about our country is this, we have freedom of speech- but I'm sure countless members of our society wished as you did and that everyone could just remain respectful. Society was a whole lot more courteous before the world of virtual-ness. Now, it's so easy to just say and do whatever without having to live in that community with the person they just bashed, or look into their eyes when they hurt them. Yes, a whole lot more courteous indeed.
And if it's any consolation, I've read all of your books and find you an engaging, fun writer wanting to share your knowledge. In fact, my 13 year old niece stayed with me for a while this summer and fell in love with my chickens and in the spring is getting her own. What was the FIRST gift idea I had for her upcoming birthday? You guessed it, Chick Days...knowledge is key.
Everyone wants to be an armchair quarterback. I can't tell you how many comments on how many blogs I've read that amount to "I'm an expert, and you're doing it wrong", but they're not the one actually living the life in question. Like others have said, it seems like many people don't know how to disagree respectfully anymore, and feel entitled to say whatever they want. Regarding any bashing you come across - shake it off and move on, baby! You don't have time to indulge that sort of person.
@KathyP, with regard to previous remarks - that was absolutely my bad, and I apologize! We seem to have a problem in Texas of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch, and giving all of us that distinctly "Texan" reputation (the pejorative one) and I guess I get overly defensive. I rescind my initial comment. :)
Jenna, you're awesome. In this case I'd tell you that John Gabriel's "Greater Internet F****** Theory" is very true. Basically...Mike Krahulik suggests that, given both anonymity and an audience, an otherwise regular person can become a very disagreeable person.
Some folks don't have class and need only a bit of anonymity to wallow in their more base desires.
I don't think you should take it so badly. Unfortunately you can't expect everyone to love you and to be polite. The internet is full of bashing but luckily it's also full of non-bashing. Diversity is good!
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Good for you! Be strong!You have servived much worse!
If you're referring to the Pioneer Woman thing, I checked it out after you mentioned on FB a while back. All that bashing is just...weird. I can't believe people really want to spend their time reading that kind of hateful drivel. IIRC, weren't they down in Texas? Texas bloggers having nothing more important to concern themselves with these days?
I guess I missed something, but I already knew you had character, so this promise is nothing I didn't know about you already. :)
Keep on being you.
I have no idea who is or isn't in Texas (Kathy, not sure who you're referring to), but maybe we could also not engage in general bashing based on location? We Texans have PLENTY of more important things to worry about right now. Infantile internat hate is a product of one's own insecurities, not a product of where you live.
And Jenna, I also don't know what you're referring to, but I think we all regard you more highly than that!
I'm sorry that that something yucky may have happened. I'm glad you are committed to peacefulness in face of someone's ugliness.
@Tara: Nobody's bashing Texas. I wasn't saying they're bashing each other BECAUSE they're Texans; I was simply pointing out (as you did) that with all the troubles Texas is currently having, there might be a few more important things they could be blogging about. That's all.
Gotcha, Kathy. I have to admit, I'm a TX gal (originally, not currently) and I read it the same way Kathy did at first, so glad to know that's not the case. :)
I have a lot of respect for this statement. I blog as well, and would never bash someone on my blog. I wouldn't do it in a face to face conversation, so why would I do it on the internet? I don't see anonymity as a reason to lose my manners.
Just reinforces my already wonderful opinion of you, Jenna! Never thought you would spend your time bashing anyone....blog or not!
I'm not sure why anyone would.. as a fellow blogger I feel that's low. : ( we should all be helping each other out and getting along.. there's enough hate out there already.
-Organic Momma
Www.organic-gardening-adventures.blogspot.com
Ree is my absolute most favorite blogger of all time, and I have never seen anything on her blog that has even come close to bashing/insulting others. Ree is not in Texas, she's in Oklahoma.
Ugh. I'm sorry.
For what it's worth, one of the reasons I love your blog is the way in which you don't need to tear others down to elevate yourself.
Thanks for being a class act, Jenna, and a great writer.
You know this seems to be rampant on the internet. Little people hiding behind a keyboard feeling they have the right to trash everyone. I'll share this with you . . . . . as I have on two other blogs I read recently (sad to say you are #3 of 8 that is having issues) Maybe someday a few of them will graduate past the junior lunchroom crap.
"Ignore all those tiny, small people who have so little self-worth or self-esteem that they have to attack others in order to justify themselves. Deep down they probably are just jealous."
I would expect nothing less...
Hi Jenna,
You are the wonderfully strong woman who has the strength and poise to work a sheepdog and a horse everyday and the love of your community both in your home town and here online (you can see that when you look at your sheep shed or your barn). I'm not sure what the blogger said but I'm sure they only said it because they don't know you. I'm glad to hear you're committed to being your best self despite the challenges of life.
If we're talking about the PW blog, PW isn't the one doing the bashing. There's an entire blog (probably more than one) devoted to bashing her. I cannot for the life of me figure out why any sane person would devote an entire blog to bashing someone. If you can't stand them that much how about just not reading them? Probably the answer to that is because the person doing the bashing is *not* sane.
@Kathy - got it! :)
Like I have said before, I enjoy your attitude, I enjoy your blog, and I appreciate that it is a little slice of gentle entertainment. And very well written at that. I read every day if I can. If I see things on the internet that are bashing others, I do what I would do in person. I turn away... Keep writing.
Some things are universally accepted as truths without needing to be said. Such is your latest post, Jenna.
You is kind.
You is smart.
You is important.
I don't know anything about whatever bashing has been going on somewhere, but I do know that all of the above statements describe you, just like Abileen was trying to teach the little girl she was tending in The Help. I and your other readers know just what a class act you are.
Diane in North Carolina
Not sure what this is about,but of course you would not. You have class and manners.
Diane, I just saw THe Help this past weekend and that is a good little saying to remember (the you is smart) thing! Loved Aibilene.
Here's a promise from me: Whenever I find bloggers bashing, or blogger-bashing, or any kind of online bashing, I stop reading whoever is writing the garbage. I don't have room in my free time for that kind of negative energy. I take a deep breath and delete them from my currently read blogs or other things. I've been known to just "hide" a Facebook friend who has nothing of any value to say and says nothing several times a day :) Life is too short. My free time is WAAAYYY too short! Sounds like most of your readers agree.
well. good. :)
Surley no one is saying ANYTHING bad about Coldantlerfarm or you. Ugh. The "internets" have become the breeding ground for pure ugliness at times. Again, I have the utmost respect for what you are doing. Shame on anyone who is po pooing you...
Don't know what's going on, but your promise is a good one.
You ain't no basher anyhow! It's one reason you've got the following.
Of course you wouldn't! You have other concerns. Some are higher concerns, others are practical concerns. All speak well of you.
I know you wouldn't, that's why I come here every day from half way across the world to be inspired!
Don't know who said what but I do know that your blog is my absolute favourite, the only blog I always, ALWAYS make time to read.
As we say over here in London,
Don't let the buggers get you down!
Ummmmm..... could somebody please fill me in? I mean, if you're going to post something leading like that, please... fill us in and not leave us hanging.
Take the high road, Jenna. Eleanor Roosevelt said "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." Don't let the little minds, who are usually hiding behind their jealousy, get to you.
OK. Guess I'm going to go discuss some ideas. :-/
WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN :(
:) J/K
A reader tipped me off to some angry/mean reviews of me and my book on a website. I don't know why I went to read them, but I did.
I don't understand why anyone who wasn't a paid critic would take the time to berate someone online. I once was paid to write a music review for a magazine for a CD I didn't like and i still feel guilty about it.
My rules are simple on this site. Anyone can say whatever they want about me, or my farm, in these comments: but they need to do it with their real name a link to their contact information. No faceless comments here if you're angry.
Way to go Jenna. There are some real haters out there and the fact that you aren't is part of the reason I've been a loyal reader for over two years. Integrity is still important in this day and age. Perhaps more important than ever. Thanks Jenna for aspiring to be better than that!
Wow really sorry that happened. Next time, DON'T GO THERE! But seriously, there is a way to critique something you don't like without making it a personal attack. That kind of unjustified attack says way more about that person than it ever would about you. Don't take that kind of bitterness personally. :-(
Hey Jenna, sorry about the negative stuff—of course you wouldn’t trash anyone. I decided to go search you up some positive stuff to counteract and came across this person’s blog…for all I know it is by a blog reader (actually she has to be because she says she is on the side panel of her blog) and you already know about it, but I thought I’d share. This person really loves your latest book and went through a traumatic experience when she misplaced it—something that is totally something I would do/have done.
Take care.
http://booksnstories.blogspot.com/2011_06_01_archive.html
I've always thought a review should be a critque, but these days proper critquing seems to be a lost art. It used to be that reviewers would say something like, "I would have preferred", or "could have been stronger", or similar things about something (books, music, art, whatever) they didn't care for or found lacking. But we now live in a society where everyone thinks they're entitled to be Simon Cowell. IOW, just plain mean and humiliating. Just another sign that our society in general is pretty much circling the drain. [See: Pioneer Woman bashers, as well.]
Jenna,
Of course, all of that has to do with THAT person's views of the world and nothing at all to do with you. I won't tell you not to let it bother you because I know if I were in your shoes, I would be bothered big time. My question is this, though. Did the person "reviewing" your work write and have published a book? Oh wait, that's three books?
The great thing about our country is this, we have freedom of speech- but I'm sure countless members of our society wished as you did and that everyone could just remain respectful. Society was a whole lot more courteous before the world of virtual-ness. Now, it's so easy to just say and do whatever without having to live in that community with the person they just bashed, or look into their eyes when they hurt them. Yes, a whole lot more courteous indeed.
And if it's any consolation, I've read all of your books and find you an engaging, fun writer wanting to share your knowledge. In fact, my 13 year old niece stayed with me for a while this summer and fell in love with my chickens and in the spring is getting her own. What was the FIRST gift idea I had for her upcoming birthday? You guessed it, Chick Days...knowledge is key.
Chin up, young person, ~Vonnie
Everyone wants to be an armchair quarterback. I can't tell you how many comments on how many blogs I've read that amount to "I'm an expert, and you're doing it wrong", but they're not the one actually living the life in question. Like others have said, it seems like many people don't know how to disagree respectfully anymore, and feel entitled to say whatever they want. Regarding any bashing you come across - shake it off and move on, baby! You don't have time to indulge that sort of person.
@KathyP, with regard to previous remarks - that was absolutely my bad, and I apologize! We seem to have a problem in Texas of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch, and giving all of us that distinctly "Texan" reputation (the pejorative one) and I guess I get overly defensive. I rescind my initial comment. :)
Hi Jenna,
You are much too ethical to bash others on a public forum. That's why we love you!
Jenna, you're awesome.
In this case I'd tell you that John Gabriel's "Greater Internet F****** Theory" is very true.
Basically...Mike Krahulik suggests that, given both anonymity and an audience, an otherwise regular person can become a very disagreeable person.
Some folks don't have class and need only a bit of anonymity to wallow in their more base desires.
One of the qualities I love about your blog is your lack of "blogger bashing!" There has been a lot of it this past year. It is sad.
I don't think you should take it so badly. Unfortunately you can't expect everyone to love you and to be polite. The internet is full of bashing but luckily it's also full of non-bashing. Diversity is good!
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