Tuesday, August 31, 2010

and...

The fences stopped working again. Finn was playing with the wire between his horns this morning.

Finn 2
Jenna 1

UPDATE: Went back at lunch and Annie was coming down the road, she repaired the down fences and had them hot again. I thanked her, and then went home to let the dogs out. Finn was on the hillside in the shade with sal. Fences on.

Finn 2
Jenna 2

30 Comments:

Blogger Kathy said...

Where Finn was being boarded near Syracuse...what kind of setup did they have there? Whatever it was, perhaps he learned to respect it (since it obviously kept him safe) so perhaps if you could duplicate that?

August 31, 2010 at 8:44 AM  
Blogger Colleen said...

I think I may have changed my mind about keeping goats when we get our farm.... :-)

August 31, 2010 at 8:58 AM  
Blogger Greentwinsmummy said...

Is it because hes trying to get out to mate Jenna? would he be less of an escapee if there was a pretty lil Miss Goat to keep him company?
I thought of you this morning as I had to round up one of my boss's lambs,its a huge thug of a thing, got it in the end,I keep saying the fences need redoing but until its done they will keep getting out of one partcular field hohumm!!
GTM x

August 31, 2010 at 9:05 AM  
Blogger Eric said...

I built a small enclosure for my goats from old pallets. It is about 16x12 feet, combined to their shelter of roughly the same size. The goats stay in during rain, or when I am out for the day. I put some long boards at one and two feet above the pallets, so the fence is about 6 feet.

When I am home, they run with 5 foot leashes on a 50 foot tether- (well, about 15 feet of run for each, with a 5 foot buffer on the ends and 10 feet in the middle.)

They are happy with it, and they don't escape anymore.

(why do you have a goat if you want to be a sheep farmer?)

August 31, 2010 at 9:20 AM  
OpenID peihome said...

Oh dear. I laughed (most sympathetically) as I read your recent posts.
We just sold our two goats due to your exact problem, though we didn't try the electric fence.
We first placed them with the sheep with a 4-foot page wire fence - no dice.
After building a brand new pen with 5-foot page wire with a strand of ribbon-festooned rope along the top (for a visual deterrent, haha), and then watching said escape-artist goat take all of ten seconds to climb over ... and head for our row of new fruit trees, after climbing over our car first ...
The sheep ARE so easy in comparison!

August 31, 2010 at 9:31 AM  
Blogger Maggie in Tally said...

Greentwins mummy: He's an ex-male. And I dunno if he would need another goat if he has sheep to hang out with already?

August 31, 2010 at 9:42 AM  
Blogger Tara said...

Hmm. Did something come loose somewhere?

August 31, 2010 at 9:44 AM  
Blogger Tara said...

I too, thought he was wethered. He is, right? If he were still intact and wanted to mate, you would, umm, KNOW. Trust me.

August 31, 2010 at 9:45 AM  
Blogger Jenna said...

Sheep are way easier...

He's a wether not a buck. Love isn't on his mind, it's all the trees, grass, hedges and such across the fence he is after. i'll go home at lunch and check in on him. he'll probably be standing on the subaru

August 31, 2010 at 9:47 AM  
Blogger Sarah said...

maybe you can just get a road sign that says "Caution! Stubborn Goat Crossing"!?

August 31, 2010 at 11:07 AM  
Blogger Brenda said...

We have two goats and use 5 foot livestock panels with 2"x4" weave and held in place with t-posts. They have never escaped. Also I built a "jungle gym" for them to climb on so they wouldn't be bored. It consists of a 4'x6' deck four feet in the air bolted onto 4x4's set in the ground. There is stairs on each end. All made from scrap lumber. They love running up and down the stairs! Goats love to climb!

August 31, 2010 at 11:15 AM  
Blogger Heather said...

Vertical slat wood fence. It's an effort to pound the posts in - or maybe you can rent a post pounder like we can here (call to get your gas lines located first). Otherwise, you will spend all your time trying other kinds of fencing and he will learn how to get out of all sort of other kinds of fencing. And don't be afraid to skimp on the posts - put them closer together and use more. If you really want a goat, you really need a fence. Really, really.

August 31, 2010 at 11:17 AM  
Blogger Heather said...

Another thought - once you have a good fence, to keep him from getting bored (which is probably a big part of his problem - goats are smart and curious so they get bored easily) build him a SAFE obstacle course or something. They love to climb - so perhaps in the middle of the pen he could have something to jump up on a 2x4 plank tight rope or something... just some thoughts. Another thought - he is wethered, but he still would like company. Goats are more solitary than sheep, but they do get lonely (and therefore bored...)

August 31, 2010 at 11:23 AM  
Blogger Allmycke said...

My Dad used to say that you needed waterproof fencing to keep the goats penned in...I feel for you, but I can't help laughing over Finn's shenanigans!

August 31, 2010 at 11:31 AM  
Blogger Jenna said...

he lives with the sheep, so he is never alone.

August 31, 2010 at 11:34 AM  
Blogger Funny Ernie said...

Everyone's comments are funny (or helpful). I've read that electric fences can short if something is touching them - like the grass is too long. Maybe that's the problem - a tree limb that sways in the wind...?

August 31, 2010 at 11:39 AM  
Blogger katiegirl said...

I have a 4' wire mesh fence with one hot wire around the inside perimeter to keep them off the fence. They respect that. My buckling would escape through the temporary fence (which was just several strands of poly wire tape) so I haltered him, pulled him into the fence so he got shocked on the nose (I did this two times) and he never got out again.

Sounds a little mean, but maybe you can halter Finn and pull him in to the fence twice so he learns it hurts...then see if he gets out again?

Unless it's just a faulty fencer or something. But mine respect the fence even when it's been off for a while.

August 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM  
Blogger Paula said...

Didn't the place where Finn was staying have a llama? They're supposed to be good guard animals- keep their eye on all your herd-type animals.

I've also seen jungle gyms for goats made out of wire/cable spools and cinder blocks....

Good luck Jenna!

August 31, 2010 at 1:28 PM  
Blogger Jen said...

Jenna,
There's an expression among goat farmers: "If it'll hold water, it might hold a goat." We've been raising them for two years. They will only mind an electric fence, preferably one with the bottom wire 6 inches from the ground. In the future, if you need an in-between solution, Premiere 1 Fencing (http://www.premier1supplies.com/) has great moveable fence solutions -- that's where we bought our rotational grazing fence when surprise! the big electric fence went down and we couldn't fix it quickly. Good luck! -Jen

August 31, 2010 at 1:38 PM  
Blogger Megan said...

Does this mean you're baking your neighbour two pies, now? :)
At least you're keeping the score even!

August 31, 2010 at 2:42 PM  
Blogger The Bunny Girl said...

Hi Jenna,

A friend of mine recently bought one of these for her goat and sheep penning emergencies. It's only for when her fencing has an issue, and it's not for a long period of time. http://www.lbarmranch.com/6-x6--dkp.html
I know it says it's a dog kennel but apparently it suffices in a hurry when she doesn't have the time to fix the fence. You can buy shade for it too. my husband and I were thinking about getting a couple when we move to our dream farm as emergency penning since Laura says it works like a dream.
I know it's a little expensive but thought you might like the idea.
-TCR

August 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM  
Blogger Melissa said...

Yeah, thats the trouble with goats- if they see something they want, they don't forget about it. Its hard because goats are foragers and not grazers so he probably is not to psyched about the pasture situation...is there any way you could fence in some of your woodlot for him?
platforms would be a good thing, too...goats are happy when they can jump onto and off of things...
Good luck, Jenna!

August 31, 2010 at 3:21 PM  
Blogger bookjunky said...

Colleen, I think it depends on the goats...how they were raised, etc. I have 3 dairy goats that I think were all hand raised on dry lot and none has ever even so much as looked at the fence. Granted we have a pasture of about 8-10 acres, not 1/2 acre. So maybe how much room is a factor too? I don't know but I do know not all goats will give you this much grief.

August 31, 2010 at 3:52 PM  
Blogger Joleen said...

How about a goat whisperer to give him some suggestions to stay inside the fence? :)

August 31, 2010 at 4:03 PM  
Blogger Corey Jace Scott said...

Your really starting to make me want a goat. Sadly I live in an apartment in NYC. They won't let me keep roosters either

August 31, 2010 at 7:29 PM  
Blogger crowjoy said...

Half the time I read you Jenna I think wow, she has got it so together, we are so slow! and then the other half of the time I'm so glad it's not just us. :D

Keep it up! Jenna will win over Finn!

August 31, 2010 at 8:24 PM  
Blogger Moose Nuggets said...

This is what I have to say about goats:
never again. Ever.
We had three (2 does in milk and a male kid). Originally purchased for $300. A solution for our cow milk allergic daughter. They lasted on our farm 10 short days. We re-fenced 3 times in 10 days. I spent three of those nights chasing and attempting to catch those goats and return them to our farm. Two of those nights were alone (husband at work) while two young human babies cried from the house. One night was well past midnight before I caught and wrestled them back to the pen. In ten days, they not only completely dinged up a brand new steel storage shed, they ate what precious little of our garden survived. When the kid figured out a way to ricochet himself off the back of the chicken coop, up on top of the hay loft, and over the 5 ft horse fence INTO the chicken yard and started eating the chicken rations, we GAVE the goats to friends who REALLy wanted goats. Those friends who really wanted goats called us a week later and really wanted to return the free goats. We declined. The goats found a new home with a family that realy needed to put something up in the freezer. Last I heard, the Billy was going to make a fine pair of chaps for a little boy who really wants "cowboy pants."
Viva the Goat.
But not on my farm.

September 1, 2010 at 3:15 AM  
Blogger Meredith A said...

as far as objects for finn to play with and jump on, these wooden spools are popular and you could probably convince a construction site to give you a few. they're perfect for goats.

http://216.26.146.243/Russell_Forest/images/reel_img.gif

good luck!

September 1, 2010 at 10:25 AM  
Blogger Thinkin' Out Loud said...

We Have a 6 foot chain link fence. I dont know if it would do any good for a goat but it works well for my hens because its too high to fly out of.

September 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM  
Blogger Lil said...

I was catching up on posts of yours that I'd missed so I read this out of order and when I first saw you mention Annie coming down the road and had repaired the fences, I'm thinking that one of your wolves had gotten out but how on earth did she repair the fence?! :-)

September 3, 2010 at 5:44 PM  

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